By Robert Vaughn Young more
21 February 2000
Monday, February 21, 2000
OPEN LETTER #2 TO RINDER — re CANCER
Since remarking in that other open letter to you about the
behavior of your volunteer in throwing those remarks at Stacy
that she is killing me (an obvious reference to my cancer and
blaming her), I decided that you need to be told something else.
If I ever hear of that being done again, if I ever learn that
your drones have thrown that into her face (or mine), I will use
every resource I can muster to tell the world how you
(collectively Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard) feel about and
treat cancer patients and those close to them.
I will ensure that every cancer support group - from
newsgroups to mailing lists to web sites — which I can find,
gets that message with the details of what occurred. Time,
place, form and event along with this last incidence and the
other times — such as your behavior in Tampa. I will make sure
that it is in the subject line, key words and written in a way
so that if a person reads only the opening paragraph (let alone
the subject line) they will get the truth of how you people feel
about cancer patients and those who support them.
Now let me tell you why I am doing this. I know your first
reaction will be that it bothers me or her and I'm taking this
personally. No, Rinder. It doesn't and you can quote me on that.
I said I am moving off into a new enterprise to help people with
cancer (specifically prostate cancer that kills 40-50K men a
year) and I am not going to stand by while someone treats people
with the disease with the disdain you are ordering to be done.
(If that volunteer had know what her insult meant, would she
have said it?) To insult Stacy or me on the subject is to insult
every person with the disease. Coming from anyone else, I could
say it was done in jest (bad taste), momentary anger or
ignorance and would remark more politely on it. Coming from your
people, it is none of these. It is a deliberate attack of the
condition and it shows exactly what the organization and Hubbard
teaches and I will tell everyone who is fighting cancer exactly
that. Then if you want to follow with your despicable "dead
agent" tactics to those same groups and sites and lists, go for
it and be sure to include this message. If you don't, I will.
I don't want you to think that just because I am "retiring"
from speaking out about abuses of your organization to devote
myself to cancer education that I am going to ignore you if you
decide to intrude into that subject. If you do, I will speak out
but it will be from a different perspective. I will be speaking
as a cancer patient, not as a former Scientology staff member.
And believe me, bubba, in the world of cancer, we have a whole
different criterion as to who is an "expert" about cancer. And
think twice before you conjure up someone who "is suffering from
cancer" to come after me. You'll be stepping into a territory so
foreign that it will look more ridiculous than Kobrin's attempt
to close ARS by telling ISPs to "rm" the group, having no idea
what "rm" even means or does.
It is my intention to step away from this particular battle,
but if you want to follow me by dragging in my condition as an
attack on Stacy or me, I will be more than happy to respond.
Secondly — yeah, there's more
— if your drones continue to
throw our marriage (meaning Stacy and me) into our faces in
righteous indignation as you have done in the past, I will treat
it in the same way and choose my method of response. It is quite
clear exactly what it is that you are doing. You can issue every
denial or Weinberg can challenge it with "what evidence do you
have" but you known damned well that I know exactly what you are
doing. I was trained in the same tech so nothing more need be
I could care less about the rest of your rantings and
posturings. You've taken every shot you can in the last 6-7
years or however long this has been going on, from picketing our
home to anonymous leaflets to direct threats but you never had
the good sense to recognize that nothing worked. So I don't
expect you to stop. (Dept 20/RTC is in desperate need of Grades
0-IV.) But you've got a chance on these topics. I'm being a lot
more magnanimous than you. I'm giving you a warning because I
want the world to know that I did. I want the world to know that
despite your lack of compassion and direct attack on me and my
friends about my condition, I gave you a chance to change.
Another group that has gone through this is people with AIDS
or are HIV positive. They underwent that sort of assault. (And
we know how Hubbard feels about homosexuality.) It wasn't until
those afflicted decided to stand up in defense not of themselves
but of the condition that the bigots began to back off. It
hasn't stopped, but progress has been made.
The fact that you would now open a similar assault on cancer
patients and their supporters puts you and your organization
into the same category and I will be more than delighted to tell
the world in every way that I can. And there is a MUCH bigger
world out there interested in cancer than Scientology or even
cults. It is huge. And I will use them all to bring support to
any cancer patient or their supporters who face the kind of
disgusting behavior you have decided to launch on Stacy and me.
So get that message, Rinder. Attack a cancer patient for
having cancer or their supporters for supporting them or blame
anyone for that condition and you will hear from me on behalf of
a very large and growing population. As to me and Scientology,
have a ball. I could care less. That is no longer my arena or
domain of interest. I have another struggle that requires my
time. But you'll hear from me if you reach across into that
domain in any way.
That is a promise.
Over to you.
Robert Vaughn Young
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Robert Vaughn Young