'Jesse Garon' chides Helena Kobrin once more

From grifter@primenet.com Wed Aug  2 12:38:50 BST 1995

So, anyway, my systems administrator and I each got a second letter
from the party claiming to be Helena Kobrin, Scientologist lawyer.

I included the bulk of her text in my response back to her, which I
present now to you, the reader, because the first letter I sent met
with such positive response.

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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 15:51:04 -0800
To: Helena Kobrin 
From: grifter@primenet.com ('Jesse Garon')
Subject: Cease to confront "Jesse Garon"

Foolish woman, you have the gall to write to me again? You are clearly
a stupid and ignorant woman to provoke "Jesse Garon" this way. I am
not amused by your antics.

>          Your letter is clear proof that you know nothing on
>     the subject of copyrights or trade secrets, and that you
>     have no interest in any resolution of this issue no matter
>     what information is provided to you.

You are incorrect. This issue WILL be resolved. You will admit your
wrongheadedness and will bow at my feet and beg for my mercy. You will
cease to annoy me with your petty complaints. OR, your church will lie
in ruins, and your tattered reputation will be right there with it.

The choice is yours, churlish woman.

>          The OT VII materials are registered as unpublished
>     works with the United States Copyright Office under
>     Certificate number TXU-303-388.  They are confidential
>     materials, and no copy of them exists outside of the Church
>     which has not been obtained by outright theft or
>     misappropriation.

The alleged post in which you allege that I allegedly quoted from
allegedly copyrighted, and allegedly confidential, materials
belonging to the Church has been cancelled. As such, there is no
proof that the post in question contained any content of the
nature that you describe.

Furthermore, I do not accept your word. I demand official paper
documents from the US Copyright Office, with all seals and/or
other identifying markers intact. Photocopies will NOT be accepted.
I want the official documents.

>          My client's OT materials have been found to be trade
>     secrets by the United States District Court for the
>     Southern District of California in 1993 in {Bridge
>     Publications, Inc.  v Vien, 827 F.Supp.  629, 633 (S.D.Cal.
>     1993).  There is ample case law from multiple jurisdictions
>     which provides that a person who is notified of the trade
>     secret status of materials is liable for their subsequent
>     disclosure.

I demand official court records of all these cases to be prepared
and handed over to me for inspection. Photocopies will not be accepted;
all documents must have official seals or other identifying markers
from the court in which the decisions were made.

You will also provide me with copies of the Operating Thetan documents
IN THEIR ENTIRETY, so that my legal counsel can determine whether or
not the content of my posts is, in fact, from those documents, regardless
of the alleged status of those documents as trade secrets.

>          You proceed at your own peril if you continue to post
>     my client's copyrighted and trade secret materials.  If you
>     wish confirmation of this information by mail, please
>     furnish me with your mailing address.

Do not threaten me with peril, silly girl. "Jesse Garon" is not
afraid of your namby-pamby Scientology. Your so-called "clears"
are no match against me, and any of your minions that attempt to
confront me will come crawling back to you and your clients to
report their failure.

YOU, stupid woman, will provide ME with the address of your legal
offices, and I will arrange for a courier to pick up the documents
in question. You will also provide with your work telephone number
so that I can make these arrangements.

In any event, you will note that my posts in the newsgroup as of 26
July 1995 contain no materials that might be alleged to be under the
copyright of your pathetic client, and I therefore expect that you
will slink away, with your tail between your whorish legs, and be
grateful for my generosity. Rest assured, Kobrin: I will crush your
clients, and I need no Operating Thetan Manuals to do so. You can
save yourself by withdrawing your complaint. If you do not provoke
me further, you will meet with none of the future Bad Juju that the
Church of Scientology will suffer. If you continue in your barratrous
and insolent manner, however, you do so at YOUR peril, particularly
since no posts after the date of 26 July contain the material in
question, and no copies of the material in question are in my possession,
since all use of the material in question was through cut-and-paste
quotation of other documents. This matter is at a close unless you,
in your blind ignorance, continue it further.

"Jesse Garon" has spoken. So let it be written, so let it be done.
A copy of this letter has been sent to Mr. James Lippard, who you
have also bothered with your petty annoyances. And a copy of your
letter is being sent with explanatory text to abuse@netcom.com. I
expect that they will be as unamused by it as I have been.

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                    G R I F T E R @ P R I M E N E T . C O M
                    It is not a matter of putting poetry at
                           the service of revolution
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I am the God damnedest mass of tact known to the human race.
G  R  I  F  T  E  R   @   P  R  I  M  E  N  E  T  .  C  O  M
 "Jesse Garon" vs. Scientology:  THEY haven't got a chance!
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