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'Jesse Garon' responds to Helena Kobrin


From grifter@primenet.com Wed Jul 26 11:25:17 BST 1995

This is the letter that I sent to Helena Kobrin when she sent the
usual form letter demanding that I cease my alleged quoting of 
"Operating Thetan Section VII".
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 01:47:09 -0800
To: Helena Kobrin 
From: grifter@primenet.com ('Jesse Garon')
Subject: response to your little missive
Cc: grifter@primenet.com


Dear Ms. Kobrin:

I am in receipt of your communication alleging that my quotation
of material from the allegedly copyrighted "Operating Thetan Section
VII" violates certain legal codes pertaining to "fair use" quotation,
trade secrets, and various and other sundry complaints on your part.

I consider your communication to be barratrous, baseless, and
most obnoxious. It is my considered opinion that you have very little
legal position in this matter, and certainly no moral position. I will
not cease to include the material in question from my posts at this time.

Furthermore, any further communication from you is predicated upon
the receipt of documentation which proves to me:

1) that Helena K. Kobrin is authorized to practice law in the United States.
2) that Helena K. Kobrin is authorized to represent the Religious Technology
   Center in legal matters.
3) that the "Operating Thetan Section VII" exists in copyrighted form.
4) that the "Operating Thetan Section VII" is an UNPUBLISHED document.
5) that authorization from RTC is necessary to quote from the "Operating
   Thetan Section VII" materials.
6) that "Operating Thetan Section VII" is legally classified as a trade
   secret which may not be disclosed without authorization.

Also, a copy of the "Operating Thetan Section VII" will be required, so
that I can compare it to the material which you allege is a quotation of
the "Operating Thetan Section VII" and determine whether this is the case.

I would further expect from the Religious Technology Center and the Church
of Scientology a public statement to the effect that neither of these
institutions are religious institutions, as religious institutions are
not legally able to have trade secrets.

Once you have indicated your willingness to provide such documentation
to me, arrangements will be made for this documentation to be delivered
unto me so that I may peruse it. Your business address and phone number
would be most helpful in establishing the fulfillment of this condition
I demand of you, without which no further correspondence on your part
will be tolerated.

You write:
>     I will expect an immediate response from you with a
>statement of your willingness to comply with these demands.

Foolish woman, you are in no position to make demands of "Jesse Garon".
"Jesse Garon" complies with the demands of no person, least of all
your ridiculous demands. Had you asked politely, that might have been
a different matter, though in all honesty I suspect that I would have
laughed in your face. But no. You, in your hubris, decided that you had
the right to make demands of "Jesse Garon".

I reject your demands. And I advise you to end this matter right here
and now, because you are beginning to deal with forces that you can
neither control nor comprehend. The most powerful Thetans in your
RTC and your church would be brought to their knees in any confrontation
with the awesome majesty of "Jesse Garon". You, who have no such powers,
do not have any hope, and appeals to my mercy will go unanswered if you
persist in your misguided behavior.

Take your pursuit up against others if you wish, but do not dare to
challenge "Jesse Garon" again.

Here's a bit of Scientologist doctrine, acceptable as "free use":
    "Find some plants, trees, etc., and communicate to them
     individually until you know they received your communication."                             
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