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Little Mark and "Tony"

Scientology children dehumanized by L.Ron Hubbard

From: (RonFreud)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Children and Scientology
Date: 9 Jul 1995 20:31:54 -0400
Message-ID: <3tpsdq$>

>Subj:  Most embarrassing moments....
>Date:  95-04-07 21:22:31 EDT
>From:  MarkPope

>Thought itd be fun to share some of the most embarrassing moments we all
experience. Heres mine:

>When I was 7 years old on the Apollo in 1968 I was holding the post of
Commodores Messenger. Basically, Id run messages from or to Ron from all
over the ship.

>For some reason I was in a condition of Liability, grey rag and all, and
if you are in lowers you arent allowed to eat with the rest of the crew.
It was getting late and I was starving! Dinner was still an hour away.

>I was called to deliver a message to Ron. I had to climb up a long ladder
to the Bridge and as I needed both of my hands I put the message in my
mouth. Somehow by the time I got to the top it was all soggy so I bit off
the edges where it was the worst.

>I guess I bit off too much, because that night over the loudspeaker the
Rocks and Shoals (condition assigments etc..) were read and I heard the
following: <<Mark Pope is hereby assigned a condition of Doubt for eating
the Commodores message>>

>Ugh... :-)))

>Anyone beat that?

>Mark Pope

From: (Tilman Hausherr)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Children and Scientology
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 21:03:10 GMT
Message-ID: <3tup0c$>

"RonFreud" posted us what he thought a "cute story" reported by Mark
Pope. (BTW, Mark Pope is the one who invented the "Volunteer Minister"
story in Japan).

Mark Pope asked "Anyone beat that" ? Yes. Here's the story of "Tony".

Mark is quite deluded (Stockholm syndrome as its best). I don't know if
I should be sorry for him or make fun of him. Decide this for yourself.


(from Corydon, "Messiah or Madman", Barricade Books, 1992, U.S)

      The four-year-old boy could no longer cry. He had been
      nearly 48 hours in the chain locker of the flagship
      _Apollo_ and his entire body was aching from his efforts
      to chip off rust. His knees and hands were raw with cuts
      and bruises. His voice was raspy from crying, and he was
      desperately afraid. He was constantly making resolutions
      to never, never again eat the Commodore's telexes - the
      most recent crime of which he had been accused.

      Little Tony had entered the chain locker through the tiny
      manhole that led to it. The metallic sound as the lid slammed
      shut sounded final somehow. The space was cramped for even
      his small body, and he was enveloped by darkness. It was
      wet in there and very, very scary. The chains of the ships'
      anchor took on the dimensions of a monster. At one point
      a rat scuttled by him squealing. He was sure he was going
      to die.

      The thin strips of yellow paper coming from the telex
      machines, like streamers of birthday party confetti, had
      been just too tempting. It had been so boring and serious,
      with everyone working constantly; but these strips of
      paper seemed to be enticing Tony to play. He put them
      in his mouth and pretended they tasted sweet, like chewing

      The Commodore had been outraged, and just the fact that
      this person had a young body was in no way going to prevent
      him from administering the appropriate penalty.
      [Footnote:] This scene is reconstructed based on converstations
      with Tony's mother, and with others on the ship at the time.

      Little Tony was "out eithics," a "down stat" (someone who
      didn't produce adequately for the group - or who produced
      bad products - and thus, had "down statistics").
                                                         [p. 27]

      Tony's mother had left him in the care of another Sea Org
      woman while she was gone on a "mission" to "raise the stats"
      of an ailing land organization. When she returned she was
      shocked to discover that her son had been placed in the
      chain locker.

      She was "handled," however, with explanations about how
      "out ethics" and "down stat" Tony had been. "He is really
      a very old thetan with a young body," she was told. "He
      should not be permitted to use that young body to stir
      up sympathy."
                                                         [p. 29]

--- Tilman Hausherr       [Awards: KoX, DB, Koos "seal of approval"]
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