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right.
Dr. DeCuypere was with us for about twenty
minutes or so. I still don’t know why she was there, if
they were personal friends or whatever
But as we -- Janet came to the door, and she
just, you know, sort of made a gesture to --
 
Q.
You’re familiar with that procedure, though --
being in the Church since 1968. It’s an -- obviously --
 
A.
Well, I’ve never been -- I’ve never been on a
watch before.
 
Q.
Okay.
A.
So it was - - it was sort of an understanding
that this was the general idea - -
 
Q.
Okay.
A.
-- is to -- not to --
Q.
Was Lisa, at the time you took her to the
cabana, still - - was she talking nonsensical or was she
actually communicating with somewhat of a coherent line of
thinking?
 
A.
Right. She -- she seemed to be, at the
beginning.
 
And when Dr. DeCuypere was there, they were --
they had casual conversation. In fact, Dr. DeCuypere was
speaking to her in rather light manner, as if she was
trying to cheer her up a bit.

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