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see. I mean, Janice -— I was, like, standing here
(indicating,) Janice was like over there (indicating,)
and Liza -- I mean Lisa would frantically sort of walk

up to you and go (sound effect) and then walk away and
so on, and from what I remember, she just walked up to
Janice, said something —— started shouting at her and
then went like that (indicating) across her face, and
Janice just went like (indicating,). but neither of us
were talking at all, because the whole thing is to keep
it very like quiet and not bring any extra
communication in.

Janice Johnson’s role in the cycle?

really have very much data. I think that night she had
taken —— she had gone in there because the girls ——
like there was Sylvia, and I don’t know who was in
there before Janice, but I know Sylvia was there. I

don’t know if it was Sylvia and someone else, and I had
understood Janice had gone in because the girls were
getting tired, because, you know, it’s quite a strain
sitting there with somebody who’s in that sort of state
for a long period of time, so I believe -- what I had
understood is that Janice went in and then I went in

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