| 1 | STIGATOR: Det. Ron Sudle... |
| 2 | you know what. . .what I mean by word clearer... |
| 3 | Det. Sudler: Wayne State in Detroit... |
| 4 | Det. Sudler: Okay. With an anesthesia group and also specia... |
| 5 | today. When. . .and you moved into the Clearwate... |
| 6 | Johnson: So they. . .there is a. • .a person that will be a... |
| 7 | Johnson: Yeah. Umm.. . two.. I had two people under me to h... |
| 8 | Johnson: And Laura was technically in the position of assis... |
| 9 | Johnson: Judy Goldsberry-Weber..... |
| 10 | to like and seemed to give a diagnosis and goo... |
| 11 | Johnson: Yeah. Usually. . .yeah usually Morton Plant fo... |
| 12 | day on a schedule. But that’s. . .1 don’t devise ... |
| 13 | Det. Sudler: Okay. Okay. And you met Lisa through Suzanne... |
| 14 | there as far as you know for any referrals... |
| 15 | that she had? ... |
| 16 | Det. Sudler: Okay. Would.. .did Suzanne have any medical ba... |
| 17 | dehydrated. Now, what I had heard was that, in tha... |
| 18 | Det. Sudler: Airight. The period before this that you.. .1 ... |
| 19 | - come back, in. . .you know.. .she just. . .you know..... |
| 20 | Johnson: I don’t specifically remember the number... |
| 21 | having some problems and she was concerned and you wen... |
| 22 | something was bothering her obviously... |
| 23 | her sleep or anything at that time... |
| 24 | root. It’s. . .1 could smell it. It’s very strong..... |
| 25 | her extra stuff... |
| 26 | Det. Sudler: Do you know who would be in charge of looking ... |
| 27 | get food... |
| 28 | -; Det. Sudler: Did she say how she was doing or anything... |
| 29 | anything like that... |
| 30 | Det. Sudler: Okay. - ... |
| 31 | next time that you saw her? ... |
| 32 | Det. Carrasq: In that cabana room? ... |
| 33 | Det. Sudler: Okay. ... |
| 34 | Johnson: Lisa responded pretty well to Suzanne.. .you know.... |
| 35 | sleeping. So I thought “Whoa”.. .you know.. .maybe a... |
| 36 | before, I remember seeing like. . .you know. .cartons o... |
| 37 | just knock lightly. Or if. . if nobody answered th... |
| 38 | Johnson: A page. ... |
| 39 | Det. Sudler: Yeah. . .1 mean. . .yeah. But she would be I g... |
| 40 | the flu.. .you know. . .just get a picture in your min... |
| 41 | sick? ... |
| 42 | is a member of the church who she can trust. And that’... |
| 43 | Johnson: Yeah, I went and got her.. .she was wearing this n... |
| 44 | that time was coming up the sidewalk. So I said. . .yo... |
| 45 | put on her? Do you remember... |
| 46 | seats and a little bit more room... |
| 47 | this. And I went to. . .went to a phone and from ther... |
| 48 | back room. . .you know. . .where she can be. . .you know..... |
| 49 | had a pulmonary embolism, which would also account fo... |
| 50 | Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm. . .about what time did you leave? ... |
| 51 | retrospect. . .you know. . .now that I know what wa... |
| 52 | ‘Johnson: But this is hindsight.. .something.. .God, when d... |
| 53 | Det. Sudler: Uh Huh... |
| 54 | - - wheelchair out. They.. .they just said “I’m sorry..... |
| 55 | birthdate or anything like that. So I gave the... |
| 56 | Det. Sudler: Okay. ... |
| 57 | all this would fit with meningitis. . .meningiti... |
| 58 | Det. Sudler: Okay... |
| 59 | go. . .1 guess.. .you know. . .not being well verse... |
| 60 | .a course or something that they would take. I... |
| 61 | she had had an evaluation... |
| 62 | - according to I guess her interaction with th... |
| 63 | may have or anything... |
| 64 | her mental and physical well-being.. .you know..... |
| 65 | yeah. . .1 can’t really say that it seemed to be willfu... |
| 66 | Johnson: She’s doing other things... |
| 67 | Det. Sudler: - Mr. Johnson... |